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19 years 9 months ago #7262 by sahirh
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Yeah its a really great distro..
and KDE is so sweet, I don't care what anyone else says.. its light years ahead of Gnome.

Sahir Hidayatullah.
Firewall.cx Staff - Associate Editor & Security Advisor
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19 years 9 months ago #7371 by cyberoidx
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Lol, i never knew/know the real difference between KDE / Gnome on my Rh 7.2 all i knew was that one of em looked cooler......

So whats the difference?

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19 years 9 months ago #7373 by nske
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Sahirh I'd agree that QT is a more organized approach and they've done a great work documenting it, also everything gives the feeling of a unified enviroment with many many features.. but in the end gtk apps seem to be MUCH lighter while they and gnome itself do not lack any important features, no? ;)

cyberoidx, perhaps this text may be of some help :lol:

When I contemplate how the GNOME and KDE desktops are developed, here is what I imagine:

KDE

A big room somewhere in Europe with lots of chrome and glass and a great big whiteboard in the front with lots of tiny, neat writing on it. There are about 50 desks, each with headphones and pristine workstations, also with a lot of chrome and glass. The faint sound of classical music permeates the room, accompanying the clicky-click of 50 programmers typing or quietly talking in one of the appropriately assigned meeting areas. (Which of course consist of elegant contemporary white pine coffee tables surrounded by contemporary white pine and fine leather meeting chairs.) Coffee, tea, mineral water and fruit juices are available in the break area.

At the end of the day, *everyone* checks in their code and the project leader does a "make" just to make sure it all compiles cleanly, but it's mostly only done from tradition anymore since it always compiles cleanly and works flawlessly. When all milestones have been met, and everything has been QA'd, (usually within a day or two of the roadmap that was written up 18 months previous) a new KDE release is packaged up and released to the mirror sites with the appropriate 24-hour delay for distribution before being announced.

KDE developers are generally between the ages of 16 and 25, like art made of lines and squares and the colors white and black. When/if they finally stop taking government subsidies and get around to getting "real jobs," most of their salary will be taken in taxes so the socialist government can subsidize the care and feeding of the next generation of KDE developers, just like it did for them. A high percentage of KDE developers, during their mandatory 5 years of government military service, crack from their years of cultural dullness and flee Europe to become terrorists for the sheer joy to be found in killing random strangers for no discernible reason.

GNOME

An abandoned warehouse in San Francisco, kitted up as for a rave, electronica playing at 15db louder than "my ears are bleeding and I'm developing an aneurism" volumes and the windows all painted over black so that the strobe and spotlights and lasers can be seen better. Computers, mainly made of whatever stuff has been exchanged for crack or scavenged from dumpsters behind dot-bombs, are scattered around on whatever furniture is available, which also consists of whatever stuff has been exchanged for crack or scavenged from dumpsters behind dot-bombs. There's no break area, but you may be able to bum a beer (or more likely something harder) off of one of the developers hanging around, and they will probably be too jacked up on X, coke, acid, heroin, ether or all of the above to notice that you've taken anything.

Development strategies are generally determined by whatever light show happens to be going on at the moment, when one of the developers will leap up and scream "I WANT IT TO LOOK JUST LIKE THAT" and then straight-arm his laptop against the wall in an hallucinogenic frenzy before vomiting copiously, passing out and falling face-down in the middle of the dance floor. There's no whiteboard, so developers diagram things out in the puddles of spilt beer, urine and vomit on the floor.

At the end of the day - whenever that is since an equal number of programmers will be passed out at any given time - or really whenever someone happens to think of it (which is rarely), someone might type "make" on some machine somewhere, with mixed results. Generally nothing happens, so he/she shrugs his/her shoulders and wanders off to look for someone who might have more pink/black-striped pills. Once in a great while, generally in the unpleasant time between the come-down from the last thing they took and before whatever it was they took just now comes on fully, someone will tar up a bunch of random files and post it on a website someplace it as the next GNOME release, usually with a reference to some kind of monkey.

GNOME developers rarely live past 25 and prefer "alternative" art - generally stuff made of feces that's "too edgy" for most people to "understand" or "like." Core GNOME developers are heavy Ketamine users. The bodies of GNOME developers can often be found in dumpsters or floating face-down in any sufficiently large body of water.



Copyright 2002, Derek Glidden

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19 years 9 months ago #7378 by sahirh
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hehehe yeah, I'd read this awhile ago.. however I still feel that most Gnome apps are much less 'intuitive' to use than their KDE counterparts.....

In fact, off late, Gnome is losing out quite a lot to KDE.. slackware just dropped Gnome from the main distro, and just about every new distro (with the exception of Ubuntu) is using KDE...

In fact word has it that Linus himself uses KDE on FC3 ;)

Either way... Fluxbox still rules if you want resources...


Cheers,

Sahir Hidayatullah.
Firewall.cx Staff - Associate Editor & Security Advisor
tftfotw.blogspot.com
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19 years 9 months ago #7380 by nske
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well since fluxbox doesn't have a native gui toolkit (nothing widely used at least), one will still end up using KDE (qt) apps or GNOME (gtk1/2) apps. KDE apps have definitelly their positives, but they're a bit on the big and bulky side.. Enough to think twise before running them each time, if you use something else than KDE (it hurts when I have to open even good old kjots under gnome or xfce! :)). I just hope gnome won't pass at the background in the future, or even worse, it won't follow the steps of KDE :!:

Slackware is a little picky in some things and I think I can recall Patrick complaining somewhere for the gnome's large compilation time and bugs :lol:

But fortunatelly there are serious projects by slackware-gnome fans such as gware and dropline , otherwise keeping up with gnome would be quite a pain. :)
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19 years 9 months ago #7398 by sahirh
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Dropline is good and good point XFCE has been making great strides off late.. I've noticed a couple of distros including it as the default desktop environment (notable PHLAK which I used to use quite often).

Ultimately both KDE and Gnome are pretty bloated, but hey what the heck, they both rule :)

Sahir Hidayatullah.
Firewall.cx Staff - Associate Editor & Security Advisor
tftfotw.blogspot.com
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