Being IT in 1000+ uer company

me too that was the idea creating a substructure in the department

for dividing responsabilities and works

regards to all.

Big companies that do it 'right' break IT up into sub-departments. Network, database, systems, developers, a help desk. Even if each sub-dept. is only 1 person, letting them consentrate on that subject is going to make them stronger and more focused. People's knowledge still crosses over. But its nothing like the shops where everyone is expected to know everything and do everything

Completely agree. I've been trying to get our "team" broken up into separate disciplines for years now but am constantly thwarted by a manager who only sees a reduction in his direct reports and therefore in his managerial prestige. Specialism works much better - it produces higher quality results from more satisfied and motivated people

Time for a little social engineering. You need to make this restructure look like a promotion for your manager. Currently the 'manager' manages 12 peons (us), and in reality thats how its going to stay. But.. you need to make it look like your manager is magically elevated up if he approves these sub groups. Now he is a "Business Manager" with 3 manager/supervisors under him with 3 tech's under each of them. Booya.. instant prestige. Company policy may prevent that exact naming.. but you get the picture.

Interesting...

Big companies that do it 'right' break IT up into sub-departments. Network, database, systems, developers, a help desk. Even if each sub-dept. is only 1 person, letting them consentrate on that subject is going to make them stronger and more focused. People's knowledge still crosses over. But its nothing like the shops where everyone is expected to know everything and do everything

Completely agree. I've been trying to get our "team" broken up into separate disciplines for years now but am constantly thwarted by a manager who only sees a reduction in his direct reports and therefore in his managerial prestige. Specialism works much better - it produces higher quality results from more satisfied and motivated people

Bishop - of course you know I agree with this. I had the same conversation during my last Staff Dialogue, I wont mention here the answer, or my response