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15 years 9 months ago #29396 by astra
Hello All,


How identify that the two LAN cards are in same subnet or in different in classless network.?/
For an example: -

lan0 : 10.129.246.139 : 255.255.255.224
lan3 : 192.168.0.69 : 255.255.255.240

lan1 : 192.168.1.1 : 255.255.255.0
lan2 : 172.27.120.225 : 255.255.255.0

Can anyone help me to identify whether pair of LANs (lan0,lan3) and (lan1,lan2) are in same subnet or in different??

Thanks in advance,

Best Regards,
Amit
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15 years 9 months ago #29397 by Smurf
Replied by Smurf on topic Re: How to identify subnets??
Hi Astra,

The maths is as follows;

If you convert to binary for the IP;

10.129.246.139 = 00001010.10000001.11110110.10001011

Now, convert the subnet mask into binary;

255.255.255.224 = 11111111.11111111.11111111.11100000

Now perform an AND operation on these (to get the NetworkID)

00001010.10000001.11110110.10001011
11111111.11111111.11111111.11100000
AND 00001010.10000001.11110110.10000000

Ok, now do this again for the next one;

If you convert to binary for the IP;

192.168.0.69 = 11000000.10101000.00000000.01000101

Now, convert the subnet mask into binary;

255.255.255.224 = 11111111.11111111.11111111.11110000

Now perform an AND operation on these (to get the NetworkID)

11000000.10101000.00000000.01000101
11111111.11111111.11111111.11110000
AND 11000000.10101000.00000000.01000000

So, if we compare the two, they dont match therefore they are not on the same network;

00001010.10000001.11110110.10000000
11000000.10101000.00000000.01000000

If we did lan0 against 10.129.246.140 255.255.255.224 then we would get this;

If you convert to binary for the IP;

10.129.246.140 = 00001010.10000001.11110110.10001100

Now, convert the subnet mask into binary;

255.255.255.224 = 11111111.11111111.11111111.11100000

Now perform an AND operation on these (to get the NetworkID)

00001010.10000001.11110110.10001100
11111111.11111111.11111111.11100000
AND 00001010.10000001.11110110.10000000

Now if we compared these, you would see

00001010.10000001.11110110.10000000
00001010.10000001.11110110.10000000

therefore they match so 10.129.246.139 & 10.129.246.139 are on the same LAN

Hope it makes some sort of sense. If not, take a look at the subnetting section on this site www.firewall.cx/ip-subnetting-intro.php

Wayne Murphy
Firewall.cx Team Member
www.firewall.cx

Now working for a Security Company called Sec-1 Ltd in the UK, for any
Penetration Testing work visit www.sec-1.com or PM me for details.
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15 years 9 months ago #29399 by astra
Replied by astra on topic Re: How to identify subnets??
Hello Wayne,

Thanks for your reply and valuable input.

Keep enjoying,

Amit
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15 years 9 months ago #29405 by Smurf
Replied by Smurf on topic Re: How to identify subnets??
no worries

Wayne Murphy
Firewall.cx Team Member
www.firewall.cx

Now working for a Security Company called Sec-1 Ltd in the UK, for any
Penetration Testing work visit www.sec-1.com or PM me for details.
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15 years 7 months ago #30276 by NeoTech
"therefore they match so 10.129.246.139 & 10.129.246.139 are on the same LAN"...



Ofcourse they are smurf, these would be the same machine, lol.

:P


Neo
Tech
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15 years 7 months ago #30399 by pedenski
I dont get it..

therefore they match so 10.129.246.139 & 10.129.246.139 are on the same LAN


of course they are, why bother computing it since its the same address...

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