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PIX-3-305005 - No translation group found for protocol
14 years 6 months ago #34666
by pixbee
Replied by pixbee on topic Re: PIX-3-305005 - No translation group found for protocol
Hi Solo,
Thanks for your time on this. I may consider rewriting that to match your suggestions. But you are re-designing everything here, as opposed to advise me why what I have now is not working - which was my main concern, hence the post. Let aside the names, the configuration I have is something which I believed should have worked. It is not. What I would love to understand is why and thus, which concept I have missed. In the first post, I have tried to explain the process as I understood it step by step, is there any of those step which is wrong?
Cheers,
Pixbee.
Thanks for your time on this. I may consider rewriting that to match your suggestions. But you are re-designing everything here, as opposed to advise me why what I have now is not working - which was my main concern, hence the post. Let aside the names, the configuration I have is something which I believed should have worked. It is not. What I would love to understand is why and thus, which concept I have missed. In the first post, I have tried to explain the process as I understood it step by step, is there any of those step which is wrong?
Cheers,
Pixbee.
14 years 5 months ago #34687
by S0lo
Studying CCNP...
Ammar Muqaddas
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Replied by S0lo on topic Re: PIX-3-305005 - No translation group found for protocol
pixbee,
Remove the following lines in your config, and it should work.
[code:1]global (inside) 1 192.168.1.20-192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0
nat (AP) 1 10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 outside 0 0 [/code:1]
I tried it on my Pix, it works. Here is what I think is happening,
When host 192.168.1.70 pings 10.0.0.1. The Pix receives this and translates the source address 192.168.1.70 to 10.0.0.251 according to nat (inside) 2 and global (AP) 2 interface statements. Now, here where it goes wrong, since the other nat/global uses outside translation, the Pix will Again translate 10.0.0.251 (that was already translated) to an IP between 192.168.1.20-192.168.1.50. Now this IP is obviously in the same segment that the pinger is (i.e inside). The packet will not reach the destination at all and it will be dropped.
The thing that clued me into this, is when I issued the command show xlate. It shows a statement like this:
Global 192.168.1.22 Local GANGAN
This is obviously a map between 192.168.1.70 and 192.168.1.22 !!!
Again, this is just what I think the reason is. What I'm sure of is that you don't need the two statements above in your setup. (i.e outside NAT).
Remove the following lines in your config, and it should work.
[code:1]global (inside) 1 192.168.1.20-192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0
nat (AP) 1 10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 outside 0 0 [/code:1]
I tried it on my Pix, it works. Here is what I think is happening,
When host 192.168.1.70 pings 10.0.0.1. The Pix receives this and translates the source address 192.168.1.70 to 10.0.0.251 according to nat (inside) 2 and global (AP) 2 interface statements. Now, here where it goes wrong, since the other nat/global uses outside translation, the Pix will Again translate 10.0.0.251 (that was already translated) to an IP between 192.168.1.20-192.168.1.50. Now this IP is obviously in the same segment that the pinger is (i.e inside). The packet will not reach the destination at all and it will be dropped.
The thing that clued me into this, is when I issued the command show xlate. It shows a statement like this:
Global 192.168.1.22 Local GANGAN
This is obviously a map between 192.168.1.70 and 192.168.1.22 !!!
Again, this is just what I think the reason is. What I'm sure of is that you don't need the two statements above in your setup. (i.e outside NAT).
Studying CCNP...
Ammar Muqaddas
Forum Moderator
www.firewall.cx
14 years 5 months ago #34689
by pixbee
Replied by pixbee on topic Re: PIX-3-305005 - No translation group found for protocol
Hi Solo,
Thanks for your time, appreciated it!
Mm. You tried it in the other way then
Well, actually GANGAN is 10.0.0.1 (not 192.168.1.70, which was the destination of the ping in my test. That is from "AP" to "Inside").
So what the show xlate indicates is indeed that the translation has been done from 10.0.0.1 to 192.168.1.22 which is what was expected from any outbound connections from "AP" to "Inside".
That means that no outbound connections from AP is allowed towards inside if I do that. Which isn't what I was trying to do.
But I'm starting to get that I just can't do anything else then a static NAT if I want to get from a lower secu interface (AP) to a higher secu (inside)... specific to pix/firewall then as a router wouldn't behave like that.
Sounds like I'm giving up here, may understand why exactly in few years (when I'll be a big boy ).
For now, I'm likely to swap the interfaces /secu level around and get it working.
Cheers again for your time.
Pixbee.
Thanks for your time, appreciated it!
Remove the following lines in your config, and it should work.
Code:
global (inside) 1 192.168.1.20-192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0
nat (AP) 1 10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 outside 0 0
I tried it on my Pix, it works.
When host 192.168.1.70 pings 10.0.0.1.
Mm. You tried it in the other way then
The thing that clued me into this, is when I issued the command show xlate. It shows a statement like this:
Global 192.168.1.22 Local GANGAN
This is obviously a map between 192.168.1.70 and 192.168.1.22 !!!
Well, actually GANGAN is 10.0.0.1 (not 192.168.1.70, which was the destination of the ping in my test. That is from "AP" to "Inside").
So what the show xlate indicates is indeed that the translation has been done from 10.0.0.1 to 192.168.1.22 which is what was expected from any outbound connections from "AP" to "Inside".
What I'm sure of is that you don't need the two statements above in your setup. (i.e outside NAT).
That means that no outbound connections from AP is allowed towards inside if I do that. Which isn't what I was trying to do.
But I'm starting to get that I just can't do anything else then a static NAT if I want to get from a lower secu interface (AP) to a higher secu (inside)... specific to pix/firewall then as a router wouldn't behave like that.
Sounds like I'm giving up here, may understand why exactly in few years (when I'll be a big boy ).
For now, I'm likely to swap the interfaces /secu level around and get it working.
Cheers again for your time.
Pixbee.
14 years 5 months ago #34690
by S0lo
Studying CCNP...
Ammar Muqaddas
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Replied by S0lo on topic Re: PIX-3-305005 - No translation group found for protocol
Oh, GANGAN is 10.0.0.1. got confused.
I better start sleeping well then or else starting killing the 4 or 5 brain cells that I have left upstairs
I better start sleeping well then or else starting killing the 4 or 5 brain cells that I have left upstairs
Studying CCNP...
Ammar Muqaddas
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13 years 7 months ago #36692
by EthelValenzuela
Replied by EthelValenzuela on topic Re: PIX-3-305005 - No translation group found for protocol
It always happens, if you want to sleep you cannot think clear :roll:
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